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Some of those involved in his “withdrawal” have been “shown up to be a lot less white than they presented themselves, and some of them have become more oppositional, even ‘heretical’, than I or my censored colleagues in the Irish Church ever were”. Their objective was not, as the then Cardinal Ratzinger said in 1985, ‘to change the faith, but to represent it in a more effective way’. Membership in the SCP UK is open to all Anglican priests who accept the Anglican Communion as part of the "one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church", who recognise the ordination of women priests, believe in the real presence and who uphold the traditional view of the seven sacraments. This, no doubt, puts Modernists in tune with the religious impulses of a democratic age, impulses they hope to rule through their own magisterium of academic expertise.

I have posted this item on this thread because the ACP have established links to the Austrian group and frequently cite them as kindred spirits. I suspect conservative views will not be welcome and the attendees will present themselves as representing the whole "Irish Church" and not merely a faction. The Association of Catholic Priests (ACP) is an independent [4] and voluntary association of Catholic clergy in Ireland. In 2009, a group of priests and seminarians from the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Church of Canada gathered at Christ Church, New Haven, Connecticut, to form a North American province of the society, known as the Society of Catholic Priests in the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Church of Canada (often abbreviated SCP NA). I mean are they daft enough to think their goals would help the church or are they so ashamed by the abuse or dissatisfied with their choice in life that they are trying to disassociate from the Church?He is present in the Sacrifice of the Mass not only in the person of his minister, “the same now offering, through the ministry of priests, who formerly offered himself on the cross,” but especially in the Eucharistic species. If you look at today’s report of new dissidence in Austria, you’ll see yet another example of the Modernist abuse of the Second Vatican Council. The ACP figures show that the Archdiocese of Dublin has more than 60 priests aged 75 or older still working full time or part time, the Diocese of Raphoe has 45 and the Archdiocese of Cashel and Emly has 21. The need to highlight for people non church ceremonies of birth, marriage, death was clearly stated for we are dealing with much non-practice and apathy.

Isn't Roy Donovan's 'take' on all this reinforced by the 'Irish Catholic Vocations Office' which implies all over again that the merely baptised have opted for spectator status, to cheer from the sidelines as the ordained and the 'religious' - the 'consecrated' ones - do the truly risky and heroic work of 'following Christ'? What a truly apostolic mind - so like the apostle who said "This could have been sold for three hundred denarii and the money given to the poor" (Mark 14:5). TheEucharistic Congress was seen as something that the Association had no strong opinion on, and that maybe nothing should be said. By now everyone knows, surely, that baptism in the New Testament was always an adult and fully conscious choice of the recipient, following some form of catechesis, and was seen as the primary sacrament of personal commitment.The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) placed restrictions on the association's founder, Fr Tony Flannery who is a member of the Redemptorist Congregation. It should be about “modelling the kind of church it seeks to bring about, especially in its relationship and work with laity,” the meeting in Athlone was told. Father Flannery, it may be remembered, came out in support of the Taioseach, Enda Kenny, when he scurrilously attacked the Pope last year: “I was happy with the Taoiseach’s statement”, he said; “Many of us priests are frustrated with the way the Vatican conducts its business. We are and we wish to remain”, the statement added, “at the very heart of the Church, committed to putting into place the reforms of the Second Vatican Council”.

Reply in the thread where the post was made as to what your problem is and we can talk about it, but not here.With respect to the claims of the We Are Church movement, we would surely expect to find something in this document through which the Council fathers outlined the renewal of the liturgy, of which they stated: “the liturgy is the summit toward which the activity of the Church is directed; it is also the fount from which all her power flows” (10).

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